it's going to take risk, and right now, we live in a risk-averse environment and a government environment that can take risks. in many ways they are afraid they will get criticized in the press or media. neil: they said businesses to risks and we ended up bailing them out, so we are averse to risk and that the ma because every time they do this, we pay for it. >> and health and medicine, we're going to have to take risks and figure out how to create new drugs and create new innovation. neil: synonymous with simona mr. conaway what you're talking about? >> there's there is a difference between the weather and climate. it's raining today, it's not raining tomorrow. the climate is the key. are there problems in healh and medicine? you bet. we need to figure out how to do multidisciplinary research on -ow not to export testing in all kinds of thingsbroad. but you know something, we have more young people, more scientists, more people that want to come to america to innovate and people that want to leave america. neil: we have fewer than ever going into a general practice nobody really wants t